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		<title>By: Jerry Fahrni &#187; Top posts for week ending February 27, 2011</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry Fahrni &#187; Top posts for week ending February 27, 2011</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Top blog posts and searches from last week (35) &#124; Jerry Fahrni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Top blog posts and searches from last week (35) &#124; Jerry Fahrni</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Jerry Fahrni &#187; Year end thoughts for 2009</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry Fahrni &#187; Year end thoughts for 2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Biggest bar coding challenge for me this year – Figuring out how to bar code our pediatric syringes. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jerry Fahrni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry Fahrni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 02:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You get the gist of the issue in your second comment. We use our AutoLabel system in the same way you use AccuChart. All our unit or use items are barcoded and placed in the Pyxis. The &quot;powers to be&quot; on our BCMA implementation team are scared to death that someone will label a peds syringe incorrectly. They haven&#039;t given any thought to a medication barcode being better than our current system, i.e. no barcode. I&#039;m not sure how they could sleep at night . They want the barcode tied to both the patient and the medication. That&#039;s going to be tough. I like your way better, which is option #2 in my post. It makes more sense and fits our current workflow. 

Thanks for the info about AMSO.org. I&#039;ll check it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You get the gist of the issue in your second comment. We use our AutoLabel system in the same way you use AccuChart. All our unit or use items are barcoded and placed in the Pyxis. The &#8220;powers to be&#8221; on our BCMA implementation team are scared to death that someone will label a peds syringe incorrectly. They haven&#8217;t given any thought to a medication barcode being better than our current system, i.e. no barcode. I&#8217;m not sure how they could sleep at night . They want the barcode tied to both the patient and the medication. That&#8217;s going to be tough. I like your way better, which is option #2 in my post. It makes more sense and fits our current workflow. </p>
<p>Thanks for the info about AMSO.org. I&#8217;ll check it out.</p>
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		<title>By: pillguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>pillguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 00:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did not clarify.  We only put unit of use items in the Pyxis, so the nurse documents the dose given, even if they only need to use 1/2 of the syringe.  I am not sure you are easily going to get to a dose verification.  For instance if we have a 2mEq syr of NS, if they scan that med it will make sure this is the med the pharmacy profiled.  The dose could be 1.5 mEq, and the nurse would just document they gave 1.5 on the eMAR.  It does check for the right product and the right time, right patient, etc.  I would love to get ours to a dose specific check on all of our meds in Pyxis, but I am not sure that is really possible.  You might want to check with AMSO.org.  They have a great bunch of folks on their listserv and could likely answer it from the safety perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did not clarify.  We only put unit of use items in the Pyxis, so the nurse documents the dose given, even if they only need to use 1/2 of the syringe.  I am not sure you are easily going to get to a dose verification.  For instance if we have a 2mEq syr of NS, if they scan that med it will make sure this is the med the pharmacy profiled.  The dose could be 1.5 mEq, and the nurse would just document they gave 1.5 on the eMAR.  It does check for the right product and the right time, right patient, etc.  I would love to get ours to a dose specific check on all of our meds in Pyxis, but I am not sure that is really possible.  You might want to check with AMSO.org.  They have a great bunch of folks on their listserv and could likely answer it from the safety perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: pillguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>pillguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 23:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow Jerry!  Your process sounds incredibly challenging!  Ours is much easier.  We purchased a nice relabeler (printer and accompanying software) from AccuChart (they also sell the Euclid repackager)  http://www.accuchart.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=16&amp;Itemid=16   This handy device barcodes (NDC or UPC, our choice) any med that we do not print a patient specific label for.  So everything in the Pyxis has one of these, everything that comes from the central pharmacy has an OrderID barcode on the patient label.  Just that easy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Jerry!  Your process sounds incredibly challenging!  Ours is much easier.  We purchased a nice relabeler (printer and accompanying software) from AccuChart (they also sell the Euclid repackager)  <a href="http://www.accuchart.com/index.php?option=com_content&#038;view=article&#038;id=16&#038;Itemid=16" rel="nofollow">http://www.accuchart.com/index.php?option=com_content&#038;view=article&#038;id=16&#038;Itemid=16</a>   This handy device barcodes (NDC or UPC, our choice) any med that we do not print a patient specific label for.  So everything in the Pyxis has one of these, everything that comes from the central pharmacy has an OrderID barcode on the patient label.  Just that easy!</p>
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